Tuesday, July 30, 2013

Everystudent.com Is Full Of Lies!


I stumbled upon this site called everystudent.com recently. It's another Christian propaganda site trying to target young students. It's filled with the usual arguments from design and first causes and on one of its pages titled, "Is There A God?" I came across some really bad arguments and couldn't resist refuting some of them since these kinds of sites do reach a number of kids and young adults who probably don't know any better. 


"God himself took on the form of man and accepted the punishment for our sin on our behalf. Sounds ludicrous? Perhaps, but many loving fathers would gladly trade places with their child in a cancer ward if they could."


Yeah but you know what? Loving fathers who were all-powerful and who could wipe out cancer instantly just by thinking about it would do that instead of trade places with their child. Likewise, god could have created a world where we don't all go to hell by default, where there is no original sin, or where we were not designed as sinners and then punished for our very nature. (He could have also created a world with no cancer) These are all logically possible worlds god could have chosen to create if he exists and is indeed all-powerful. But god knowingly chose to create the world where we'd sin and deserve to go to the hell that he created for us, where he'd have to impregnate an underage virgin girl to give birth to himself to be sacrificed to himself in order to redeem the world and save us all, from himself. Sound Ludicrous? Yes.


"What proof did Jesus give for claiming to be divine? He did what people can't do. Jesus performed miracles. He healed people...blind, crippled, deaf, even raised a couple of people from the dead."


Yeah, according to the Bible! - which is completely unreliable. We have no other evidence that any of these supposed events ever occurred. Christians seem to take for granted that the Bible is accurate and telling the truth, and are blissfully unaware that non-Christians do not assume this by default.


"The Earth...its size is perfect...If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter. Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life. The Earth is located the right distance from the sun."


This is perhaps the worst version of the fine tuning argument that exists. It's no surprise our planet is just right for us - we live there! What should we expect, a planet with no atmosphere that's too small and too hot? I mean seriously! We are fine tuned for the earth, the earth is not fine tuned for us. If the earth wasn't the right size and distance from the sun, we simply wouldn't be here. But there is no reason why we must be here. It's like me saying that I must be here refuting these stupid arguments for god. What are the odds of that? Well considering that my father will make about 1.8 trillion sperm cells in his life, I could have only been born by one of them, as well as one of my mother's eggs. Same is true for their parents, and their parent's parents. Now go back just a thousand generations and think of the mathematical odds for all of them being born, which were all necessary for me to have been born. And that's not even counting the events in their lives that had to happen just so that they could be born. For example, if World War II didn't happen, my parents would not have been born, and so I obviously wouldn't have either. So did WW II have to happen for me to be born? Did god make it so that 60 million people had to be killed, and some of them tortured, just so that I could have been born? I mean seriously. 

To believe god planned us all you'd have to entertain such monstrous ideas that only a sadist could engineer. I have no problem accepting that I was born because of chance. The same thing is also true of the human race as a whole. And considering how many stars there are out there in the universe (approximately 1024), there almost certainly exists another life-harboring planet somewhere.

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This horrible site asserts everywhere that the Bible is accurate and has never been manipulated and that it's proof Jesus was god. I mean, it's so blatant about it. Even mainstream scholars know that the Bible was not written by eyewitnesses (which this site denies), that there are numerous serious contradictions (which this site ignores) and that there have been numerous changes to the text over the centuries (again which this site denies). Everystudent.com cannot be trusted as it is just a piece of propaganda that is either completely ignorant of the facts about how unreliable the Bible is or is deliberately lying about it, which perhaps is even worse.

I wonder if Christians feel it is perfectly OK to deliberately lie to further the cause for spreading Christianity in the same way that Muslims are allowed to deceive in order to further the cause for Islam? 

7 comments:

  1. "What proof did Jesus give for claiming to be divine? He did what people can't do. Jesus performed miracles. He healed people...blind, crippled, deaf, even raised a couple of people from the dead."

    Paul claims he didn't perform any (assuming Paul thought Jesus existed on earth):
    1 Corinthians 1:22-23
    "Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles"

    The Jew sought signs (ie. miracles), and in paul's preaching there were none to be found.

    Also, Mark indicates that miracles cannot be used to tell the true messiah and prophets from the false:
    Mark 13:22 "For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect."

    So we have Paul claiming Jesus performed no miracles, and the author of Mark claiming that miracles can't be used to identify the messiah.

    We also have modern day god-men like Sathya Sai Baba raising people from the dead:
    http://www.saibaba.ws/miracles/raisingfromthedead.htm

    I do love stupid, ridiculous claims like the one above :-)

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    1. It is amazing how bad some apologist websites are. It's like they take it for granted that people will believe the Bible is correct.

      And also the case for Christ I am really disappointed in. I've recently become obsessed with the debate over the New Testament's reliability and the historicity of Jesus and I have to say, I can't see how anyone can believe it except of a massive dose of credulity and faith.

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    2. I think some people can't actually fathom that the bible might not be correct - it just feels so "True" to them that the alternative is simply unthinkable.

      On Jesus, I think a lot of apologists take the "consensus" view that there was an historical person upon which the gospel's character's were based and simply assume that this means the Jesus of Christianity existed. They make the leap from "a person" to "the miracle working son of God" without even bothering to think about it.

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    3. Apologists also often ask how we can explain Jesus' miracles, the resurrection, etc, without Christianity being true, without knowing that there is no need to actually explain those things - all we have are stories, and so all that needs explanation are stories.

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    4. Never more than a "nominal" Christian, having grown up in a Christian majority country.

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